Comments on: Animal Rights vs. Human Rights – A Brief Debate – Part 2 http://www.veganise.me/animal-rights-vs-human-rights-a-brief-debate-part-2 Peace begins on your plate Wed, 08 Feb 2012 18:39:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Lola http://www.veganise.me/animal-rights-vs-human-rights-a-brief-debate-part-2#comment-172 Lola Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:58:33 +0000 http://www.veganise.me/?p=368#comment-172 I can't say I really understand why torturing and killing animals is still widely accepted. Here is my logical argument. 1. The reasonable person would accept that torturing and killing a sentient being capable of experiencing pain is morally wrong. 2. Animals are sentient beings. Therefore, 3. Torturing and killing animals is morally wrong. Simple logic. I can’t say I really understand why torturing and killing animals is still widely accepted. Here is my logical argument.

1. The reasonable person would accept that torturing and killing a sentient being capable of experiencing pain is morally wrong.
2. Animals are sentient beings.
Therefore,
3. Torturing and killing animals is morally wrong.

Simple logic.

]]> By: Lindsey http://www.veganise.me/animal-rights-vs-human-rights-a-brief-debate-part-2#comment-168 Lindsey Tue, 28 Apr 2009 04:00:40 +0000 http://www.veganise.me/?p=368#comment-168 Thanks, Leafy :) Those are some great additional examples of not all animals being speciesist. My friend doesn't realize how his speciesism is blocking him from seeing that his argument is wrong. By being speciesist, he thinks all animals of one group are the same. He fails to realize that animals have distinct personalities just like humans, so not all animals will act according to one rule that he applied to them. That's like saying that everyone in a certain race will act in a certain way. You're right, this is really a sad world we live in when people don't care that others are suffering. I just don't understand it. Especially when some of these people who don't care have pets whom they love very much! This particular friend had a beloved pet cat growing up. Don't understand why he can't extend his compassion for humans to animals. I guess maybe because one doesn't encounter farm animals in the suburbs, and some people just can't understand how those non-household pet animals are not machines?? Thanks, Leafy :)

Those are some great additional examples of not all animals being speciesist.

My friend doesn’t realize how his speciesism is blocking him from seeing that his argument is wrong. By being speciesist, he thinks all animals of one group are the same. He fails to realize that animals have distinct personalities just like humans, so not all animals will act according to one rule that he applied to them. That’s like saying that everyone in a certain race will act in a certain way.

You’re right, this is really a sad world we live in when people don’t care that others are suffering. I just don’t understand it. Especially when some of these people who don’t care have pets whom they love very much! This particular friend had a beloved pet cat growing up. Don’t understand why he can’t extend his compassion for humans to animals. I guess maybe because one doesn’t encounter farm animals in the suburbs, and some people just can’t understand how those non-household pet animals are not machines??

]]> By: Leafy http://www.veganise.me/animal-rights-vs-human-rights-a-brief-debate-part-2#comment-164 Leafy Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:02:27 +0000 http://www.veganise.me/?p=368#comment-164 As usual, you make a lot of sense! You make excellent points, about how we are more brutal than other so-called speciesist animals, and that we do it intentionally. I loved your point about the dogs defending humans, and I imagine there are many other examples, such as when a member of one species adopts an infant from another species as one of their own. I am sure they would defend their adopted child against a member of their own species. I am always amazed when people don't consider the issue of suffering relevant at all. As usual, you make a lot of sense! You make excellent points, about how we are more brutal than other so-called speciesist animals, and that we do it intentionally. I loved your point about the dogs defending humans, and I imagine there are many other examples, such as when a member of one species adopts an infant from another species as one of their own. I am sure they would defend their adopted child against a member of their own species.

I am always amazed when people don’t consider the issue of suffering relevant at all.

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