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		<title>By: Lindsey</title>
		<link>http://www.veganise.me/animals-cant-think-so-its-ok-to-eat-them#comment-3385</link>
		<dc:creator>Lindsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 03:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for replying to that.
Very well said!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for replying to that.<br />
Very well said!</p>
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		<title>By: wf</title>
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		<dc:creator>wf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 02:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Staring at a wall all day doesn&#039;t mean that you cannot feel pain. It doesn&#039;t mean there&#039;s no drive to preserve your own life. Therefore, if your death involves pain, you experience fear and terror. Aside from this, if your life involves pain, you experience fear and terror.

Locking an animal away from experiencing the joys of life doesn&#039;t take away the desire for that life. Young girls kidnapped at an early age and made to live with a pedophile as his wife and kept sequestered away from other humans dulls their senses and deadens their emotions. Does that mean that their lives don&#039;t matter? Because going by this argument, because they didn&#039;t live, their lives and their desires don&#039;t matter.

A retarded boy kept locked in a closet his entire life doesn&#039;t ever get to experience life, but the fact that he&#039;s unable to experience life doesn&#039;t mean he doesn&#039;t yearn for it. Perhaps he doesn&#039;t know what type of life he&#039;s missing, or exactly what that life entails and includes, but that&#039;s exactly the point. The entire possibility of life is removed from him, which isn&#039;t humane. And the same thing happens with these animals. They&#039;re disallowed to have any possibility of living the life they would normally lead. And the lives chickens would have had might not be much to you, but to them it&#039;s all they have. To them, it&#039;s the only thing worth living for. And because that one thing is taken from them, they develop disorders that cause them to bite their fellow inmates, or cause pigs to resort to cannibalism, or cause dogs in puppy mills to develop anxiety disorders that they wouldn&#039;t have had otherwise.

You say that if you look into the eyes of one of these animals, the eyes are blank. This is precisely the point. They aren&#039;t in there, they aren&#039;t active, because they&#039;ve been torn down and had everything that meant anything to them ripped away, and couldn&#039;t actively live. And that&#039;s just the same look you&#039;d see in that young girl 20 years after she was kidnapped. She isn&#039;t in there, she&#039;s dead inside. Any spark that once was in her young eyes is gone, and now they&#039;re just blank. It wasn&#039;t the kidnapper&#039;s right to take her life away from her and turn her into an empty shell, and it isn&#039;t our right to take life away from animals in the way that we do. It was alright in the early days when people hunted and only took what they needed, and thanked the animals for their sacrifices. But now, with our burgeoning growth, the world can&#039;t keep up with our inexhaustible appetites, and as such we&#039;re slowly devouring the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Staring at a wall all day doesn&#8217;t mean that you cannot feel pain. It doesn&#8217;t mean there&#8217;s no drive to preserve your own life. Therefore, if your death involves pain, you experience fear and terror. Aside from this, if your life involves pain, you experience fear and terror.</p>
<p>Locking an animal away from experiencing the joys of life doesn&#8217;t take away the desire for that life. Young girls kidnapped at an early age and made to live with a pedophile as his wife and kept sequestered away from other humans dulls their senses and deadens their emotions. Does that mean that their lives don&#8217;t matter? Because going by this argument, because they didn&#8217;t live, their lives and their desires don&#8217;t matter.</p>
<p>A retarded boy kept locked in a closet his entire life doesn&#8217;t ever get to experience life, but the fact that he&#8217;s unable to experience life doesn&#8217;t mean he doesn&#8217;t yearn for it. Perhaps he doesn&#8217;t know what type of life he&#8217;s missing, or exactly what that life entails and includes, but that&#8217;s exactly the point. The entire possibility of life is removed from him, which isn&#8217;t humane. And the same thing happens with these animals. They&#8217;re disallowed to have any possibility of living the life they would normally lead. And the lives chickens would have had might not be much to you, but to them it&#8217;s all they have. To them, it&#8217;s the only thing worth living for. And because that one thing is taken from them, they develop disorders that cause them to bite their fellow inmates, or cause pigs to resort to cannibalism, or cause dogs in puppy mills to develop anxiety disorders that they wouldn&#8217;t have had otherwise.</p>
<p>You say that if you look into the eyes of one of these animals, the eyes are blank. This is precisely the point. They aren&#8217;t in there, they aren&#8217;t active, because they&#8217;ve been torn down and had everything that meant anything to them ripped away, and couldn&#8217;t actively live. And that&#8217;s just the same look you&#8217;d see in that young girl 20 years after she was kidnapped. She isn&#8217;t in there, she&#8217;s dead inside. Any spark that once was in her young eyes is gone, and now they&#8217;re just blank. It wasn&#8217;t the kidnapper&#8217;s right to take her life away from her and turn her into an empty shell, and it isn&#8217;t our right to take life away from animals in the way that we do. It was alright in the early days when people hunted and only took what they needed, and thanked the animals for their sacrifices. But now, with our burgeoning growth, the world can&#8217;t keep up with our inexhaustible appetites, and as such we&#8217;re slowly devouring the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Dakki</title>
		<link>http://www.veganise.me/animals-cant-think-so-its-ok-to-eat-them#comment-3311</link>
		<dc:creator>Dakki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 10:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am certain animals like chickens and animals raised in intensive farming facilities do not suffer. If you limit their experience in life, they would not miss it. What kind of life does a chicken have? Life in a cage every day. So, they are not losing much and will not suffer. Also, they are not intelligent, about equal to a fish. Cows are not more intelligent than a fish either if it is raised in a confined space. They do not experience life, so therefor, they do not miss what they never had. Pigs, well, they are intelligent as a dog, but again, confined space. So, basically what I am saying is that it is more humane and kind to the animal to deprive it completely. If your entire life is staring at the wall all day, then that is all you know and when you die, you would not suffer. If you look in the eyes of a farm animal, I do not see an animal, it is just blank. Eating it is it&#039;s only purpose so we must eat it. Do not deny your nature, we are omnivorus. We eat vegetable and meat. That is our natural diet. Not once in our history have we lived without meat or animal. No reason to stop. Do not deny your tastes, it knows well from evolution. Eating meat is like becoming one with our nature. The animal gives its life to you. You take it, consume it, and use it&#039;s energy to give you life so you can make the world better and to flourish on this wonderful planet. That is life. Do not deny life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am certain animals like chickens and animals raised in intensive farming facilities do not suffer. If you limit their experience in life, they would not miss it. What kind of life does a chicken have? Life in a cage every day. So, they are not losing much and will not suffer. Also, they are not intelligent, about equal to a fish. Cows are not more intelligent than a fish either if it is raised in a confined space. They do not experience life, so therefor, they do not miss what they never had. Pigs, well, they are intelligent as a dog, but again, confined space. So, basically what I am saying is that it is more humane and kind to the animal to deprive it completely. If your entire life is staring at the wall all day, then that is all you know and when you die, you would not suffer. If you look in the eyes of a farm animal, I do not see an animal, it is just blank. Eating it is it&#8217;s only purpose so we must eat it. Do not deny your nature, we are omnivorus. We eat vegetable and meat. That is our natural diet. Not once in our history have we lived without meat or animal. No reason to stop. Do not deny your tastes, it knows well from evolution. Eating meat is like becoming one with our nature. The animal gives its life to you. You take it, consume it, and use it&#8217;s energy to give you life so you can make the world better and to flourish on this wonderful planet. That is life. Do not deny life.</p>
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		<title>By: bartk</title>
		<link>http://www.veganise.me/animals-cant-think-so-its-ok-to-eat-them#comment-1877</link>
		<dc:creator>bartk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 23:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[Babies and mentally handicapped people don’t think anything like human adults can. ]

that&#039;s completely a NOGO bio centristic nonsense argument for veganism, gee and by the way, once I saw this funny Ali G show in TV with a veggie and Ali G saying something like &quot;Eat this chicken&quot; Veggie: &quot;No!&quot; Ali G responding &quot;Eat this chicken or I kill that other one...&quot; ;) 

peace</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[Babies and mentally handicapped people don’t think anything like human adults can. ]</p>
<p>that&#8217;s completely a NOGO bio centristic nonsense argument for veganism, gee and by the way, once I saw this funny Ali G show in TV with a veggie and Ali G saying something like &#8220;Eat this chicken&#8221; Veggie: &#8220;No!&#8221; Ali G responding &#8220;Eat this chicken or I kill that other one&#8230;&#8221; ;) </p>
<p>peace</p>
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		<title>By: Deleilan</title>
		<link>http://www.veganise.me/animals-cant-think-so-its-ok-to-eat-them#comment-1050</link>
		<dc:creator>Deleilan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Animals don&#039;t destroy their environment or act against their own self-interest (unlike us humans) — isn&#039;t that proof of their intelligence?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Animals don&#8217;t destroy their environment or act against their own self-interest (unlike us humans) — isn&#8217;t that proof of their intelligence?</p>
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		<title>By: Kristen</title>
		<link>http://www.veganise.me/animals-cant-think-so-its-ok-to-eat-them#comment-815</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 14:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post! Great argument!</description>
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		<title>By: Basmis</title>
		<link>http://www.veganise.me/animals-cant-think-so-its-ok-to-eat-them#comment-814</link>
		<dc:creator>Basmis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 12:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article!! It&#039;s so true!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article!! It&#8217;s so true!</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.veganise.me/animals-cant-think-so-its-ok-to-eat-them#comment-802</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 02:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said!
Or even worse; it&#039;s killing for texture, not for the taste since seasoning is what sets the taste. Meat doesn&#039;t &quot;taste&quot; good. No matter what a meat-eater will say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said!<br />
Or even worse; it&#8217;s killing for texture, not for the taste since seasoning is what sets the taste. Meat doesn&#8217;t &#8220;taste&#8221; good. No matter what a meat-eater will say.</p>
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