Gary Francione: I would suggest that our use of animals for the production of food involves torture.
Jan Narveson: I want to claim that the torture is justified. You want to claim it’s not.
The question is, is our interest in the taste of animal flesh such as to justify doing the things we do to them to get them into the frying pan? My answer is, yes.
Last month libertarian philosopher Jan Narveson debated vegan abolitionist Gary Francione about animal rights. Narveson’s view is that humans have no moral obligation to animals. He argues that it is morally acceptable for animals to suffer, even horribly, as long as it in is in our interests to use them. He also claims that torturing animals pointlessly or for entertainment is “weird” but of trivial significance morally.
For those who have been following the Twitter debates with @mattbramanti, his views seem to be quite similar to Narveson’s.
I thought there were two encouraging things that came out of this. One is that Francione said that there are still many people who honestly believe it is necessary for human health to eat meat. It makes me hopeful that, for some omnivores at least, changing their minds about that could lead to them considering a vegan lifestyle. The other thing Francione said was that the abolitionist position hasn’t “really hit the radar screen yet of a lot of people. But there is clearly a change occurring. It’s happening here in North America. It’s happening in Europe. The thinking about this issue is clearly in transition.” Continue reading
This is 45 days in the life of a broiler chicken. One that you might have eaten yourself without knowledge.
If anytone thinks this is alright, then I pity them for not having a heart.
When you see the final product on the table you often don’t even know which part of the animal you’re eating nor how it came to be that way.
Well, this is where bacon comes from and how it’s made.
As you watch it, please have a think that each one of those bellies belong to 1 pig, 1 life – who had its throat cut and was bled to death in pain.
About a month ago I came across this documentary that I believe everybody should watch before their next meal.
It explains the term “specism” and shows what goes on behind the scenes of a few industries that use animals as if they were products and not like the sentient beings that they are.
If you can’t stomach it, then you shouldn’t stomach the resulting product either.
Eating meat is an unnecessary cruelty. We can live perfectly healthy lives (even healthier than meat eaters) without putting innocent creatures through pain and suffering – so why do it?
“A man can live and be healthy without killing animals for food; therefore, if he eats meat, he participates in taking animal life merely for the sake of his appetite. And to act so is immoral.”
I cannot add much more to this video. It’s pure genius. The animation as well is utter perfection and adds so much to the speech.
It somewhat restores my faith in humanity to think I am not the only one who thinks the way I do.
Having just said that, it reminds me of his lyrics.
“You may say I’m a dreamer
But I’m not the only one
I hope someday you’ll join us
And the world will be as one”