Comments on: We are largely the same http://www.veganise.me/we-are-largely-the-same Peace begins on your plate Fri, 03 Sep 2010 01:58:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: So I'm Thinking Of Going Vegan http://www.veganise.me/we-are-largely-the-same#comment-6820 So I'm Thinking Of Going Vegan Tue, 24 Aug 2010 19:30:16 +0000 http://www.veganise.me/?p=524#comment-6820 A crime against humans? No, I think the greatest mistake, or crime even, was the artificial elevation of the status of the human animal. Great graphic Edward! Thank you for making it. A crime against humans? No, I think the greatest mistake, or crime even, was the artificial elevation of the status of the human animal.

Great graphic Edward! Thank you for making it.

]]> By: Dakki http://www.veganise.me/we-are-largely-the-same#comment-3315 Dakki Tue, 02 Mar 2010 19:35:50 +0000 http://www.veganise.me/?p=524#comment-3315 NO NO NO NO NO NO. This is a grave mistake to confuse man with animal. By doing this, you are lowering the status of man and that is the greatest mistake. I wish it were only stupidity that were causing you to feel this way but I see it all over now. This graphic you post is a crime against humans and I do truly mean this. NO NO NO NO NO NO.

This is a grave mistake to confuse man with animal. By doing this, you are lowering the status of man and that is the greatest mistake. I wish it were only stupidity that were causing you to feel this way but I see it all over now. This graphic you post is a crime against humans and I do truly mean this.

]]> By: Edward http://www.veganise.me/we-are-largely-the-same#comment-3047 Edward Sun, 14 Feb 2010 03:28:05 +0000 http://www.veganise.me/?p=524#comment-3047 I think you have a good point and I'll admit my ignorance about their ability to feel pain. I just know that some studies show they are sentient and I would imagine they do have some level of sentience. Anyway, if we can at least respect the animals who we are sure feel pain then we can worry about insects next. I think you have a good point and I’ll admit my ignorance about their ability to feel pain. I just know that some studies show they are sentient and I would imagine they do have some level of sentience.

Anyway, if we can at least respect the animals who we are sure feel pain then we can worry about insects next.

]]> By: Tessa http://www.veganise.me/we-are-largely-the-same#comment-3046 Tessa Sun, 14 Feb 2010 03:12:47 +0000 http://www.veganise.me/?p=524#comment-3046 I don't think there is much evidence to support that insects feel pain. Consider that a spider with a crushed leg will continue to walk on it with the same amount of force, or that an aphid missing half its abdomen will continue to graze, or that a praying mantis will continue to have sex while his mate starts munching on his head. Sure insects may try to escape some aversive stimuli, but so will bacteria, and I'm sure you cannot believe that bacteria feel pain, as they are only a single cell. What about the radially symmetric animals, like sponges and urchins? Do they feel pain? Euglenas? Paramecia? Where is that line again? As for parasites, the only ones that I can think of that you could potentially remove alive would be a tick. The others I thought up were Heartworms, tapeworms, roundworms, fleas, and of course, malaria. Now, say we did find some humane way of removing these guys. What do we do with them? Parasites are defined as organisms that need a host to survive. So, OK, you just found a good surgical procedure to take a tapeworm out of your pet dog. Now that it's out, if we go by your logic that invertebrates can feel pain and suffer, the worm is suffering terribly, is terrified, and is dying. I don't see how forcefully removing a parasite from its home and food source is preferable, according to what I got the impression you are implying. Of course, I may have caught the wrong drift from you, and I look forward to your response. :) I don’t think there is much evidence to support that insects feel pain. Consider that a spider with a crushed leg will continue to walk on it with the same amount of force, or that an aphid missing half its abdomen will continue to graze, or that a praying mantis will continue to have sex while his mate starts munching on his head. Sure insects may try to escape some aversive stimuli, but so will bacteria, and I’m sure you cannot believe that bacteria feel pain, as they are only a single cell. What about the radially symmetric animals, like sponges and urchins? Do they feel pain? Euglenas? Paramecia? Where is that line again?

As for parasites, the only ones that I can think of that you could potentially remove alive would be a tick. The others I thought up were Heartworms, tapeworms, roundworms, fleas, and of course, malaria. Now, say we did find some humane way of removing these guys. What do we do with them? Parasites are defined as organisms that need a host to survive. So, OK, you just found a good surgical procedure to take a tapeworm out of your pet dog. Now that it’s out, if we go by your logic that invertebrates can feel pain and suffer, the worm is suffering terribly, is terrified, and is dying. I don’t see how forcefully removing a parasite from its home and food source is preferable, according to what I got the impression you are implying. Of course, I may have caught the wrong drift from you, and I look forward to your response. :)

]]> By: Edward http://www.veganise.me/we-are-largely-the-same#comment-2832 Edward Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:04:01 +0000 http://www.veganise.me/?p=524#comment-2832 With insects the 2 circles move further apart with less things shared. They still feel some level of pain and that should therefore be taken into account. Parasites can often be dealt with without the need to kill them. With insects the 2 circles move further apart with less things shared. They still feel some level of pain and that should therefore be taken into account.
Parasites can often be dealt with without the need to kill them.

]]> By: Tessa http://www.veganise.me/we-are-largely-the-same#comment-2818 Tessa Sat, 30 Jan 2010 01:38:31 +0000 http://www.veganise.me/?p=524#comment-2818 Does this include insects? What about parasites? If not, where is the line? Does this include insects? What about parasites? If not, where is the line?

]]> By: Carl http://www.veganise.me/we-are-largely-the-same#comment-2717 Carl Thu, 21 Jan 2010 03:01:46 +0000 http://www.veganise.me/?p=524#comment-2717 This is awesome. The vegan movement needs originality like yours to keep it fresh. This is awesome. The vegan movement needs originality like yours to keep it fresh.

]]> By: Animal Rights Concerns http://www.veganise.me/we-are-largely-the-same#comment-2642 Animal Rights Concerns Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:01:32 +0000 http://www.veganise.me/?p=524#comment-2642 I also really like this. You did a wonderful job! Could I add it to http://www.animalsuffering.com/resources/images/ ? Great stuff!!! I also really like this. You did a wonderful job! Could I add it to http://www.animalsuffering.com/resources/images/ ?
Great stuff!!!

]]> By: Edward http://www.veganise.me/we-are-largely-the-same#comment-2195 Edward Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:40:49 +0000 http://www.veganise.me/?p=524#comment-2195 Hey thank you! I did create it myself after some brainstorming with @LeafyV from twitter. Had a moment of inspiration one day and this dawned to me - happens once in a blue moon. :-D Hey thank you! I did create it myself after some brainstorming with @LeafyV from twitter.
Had a moment of inspiration one day and this dawned to me – happens once in a blue moon. :-D

]]> By: Stephanie E. http://www.veganise.me/we-are-largely-the-same#comment-2194 Stephanie E. Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:35:53 +0000 http://www.veganise.me/?p=524#comment-2194 Oh my -- how much do I love this?! I clicked on the link in Google Reader immediately to ask the same question as Lindsey: did you create this yourself? Oh my — how much do I love this?! I clicked on the link in Google Reader immediately to ask the same question as Lindsey: did you create this yourself?

]]> By: Lindsey http://www.veganise.me/we-are-largely-the-same#comment-2192 Lindsey Fri, 18 Dec 2009 15:19:03 +0000 http://www.veganise.me/?p=524#comment-2192 That is amazing!! Did you make that? That is amazing!! Did you make that?

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